With the latest chapter in the franchise teasing its future, director Michael Chaves offers an update on The Conjuring 4 after The Nun II’s post-credits scene.

Chaves, who previously helmed the loosely connected The Curse of La Llorona and The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It, returns to the James Wan-produced franchise with the sequel to the 2018 hit spinoff.

The Nun II also sees the returns of Taissa Farmiga as Sister Irene and Bonnie Aarons as the eponymous demon Valak, who embarks on a streak of murders of priests and nuns across Europe in search of a powerful artifact.

In honor of the movie’s release, SlashFilm caught up with Michael Chaves to break down The Nun II. When asked about the movie’s post-credits scene and how it sets up the in-development The Conjuring: The Last Rites, the franchise director noted that writing is still ongoing for the fourth mainline movie and acknowledged that “it could go a couple different ways,” but expressed his excitement for it and teased there is “a great finale” planned for it.